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Nemontana

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Heroics in Order of Difficulty | Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 9:36 PM

This is a compilation of KoH's very very quick notes on the relative difficulty of Wrath heroic instances. No strategies here, just a quick overview of "If I had trouble with this, should I try that?"

The list starts off easy and gets harder as you go, and the number after the name is how many badges you get for running it.

Violet Hold (3) - dependant on what bosses you get
Utgarde Keep (3)
Drak'theron Keep (4)
Nexus (5)
CoT Strat
Utgarde Pinnacle (4) - gauntlet is the primary wrinkle
Gun Drak (5)
Azjol Nerub (3) - 3 chains of 3 with no breaks to start is a high barrier of entry

Still waiting to be sorted:

The Oculus (4)
Ahnkahet, the Old Kingdom (5)
Halls of Stone (4)
Halls of Lightning (3)

Edited by Nemontana at December 21st, 2008 - 7:16 pm

Shammadru

Hyjal

Re: Heroics in Order of Difficulty | Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 11:26 PM

Not sure if its just me or not, but I would move VH closer to the top. I can heal it easily, but HoL, UP, not so much...good list though!

Shamma

Greenwiz

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Re: Heroics in Order of Difficulty | Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 8:45 AM

A lot of this depends on group makeup. Some groups will just get stopped dead by a given boss because there are too many melee DPS in fight that does a lot of AOE damage near the boss, or whatever else. VH is especially random because you don't know which subbosses you're going to get, and some of them might be more trouble for your group than others.

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Nemontana

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Re: Heroics in Order of Difficulty | Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 9:38 AM

Maybe we should make a compilation of high-level heroic notes? Not strategies, but more along the lines of: easy/hard to heal, CC really helps, AoE really helps, OT really helps?

Natalia

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Re: Heroics in Order of Difficulty | Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 10:24 AM

I think thats a great idea Nemo. Any encounter in the game has a basic strategy categories, well at least for me. When I see a fight I decide what is the fundemental strategy the developers were trying to focus on when creating the encounter.

Group Communication
Tank/Spank
Group Mobility
AoE
Gear Check (Tank, DPS or Heals)
Prioritization (CC and dps order)

Just some of the strategy types that I think of when looking at new content. Bosses with multiple phases mix it up a bit by changing strategy mid fight. I just got 80 and have not made it into most 80 normal runs, but once I start I'll start taking notes.

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Antipas

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Re: Heroics in Order of Difficulty | Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 2:51 PM

From personal expierence I would put them from easiest to hardest:

Violet Hold
Utgarde Keep
Drak'theron Keep
Nexus
Culling of Strat
Utgarde Pinnacle (it's all pretty easy except the guantlet, and even then if you know what your doing it's really pretty simple)
Gun Drak
Azjol Nerub

The the trash before the first boss in AN is 3 chains of 3 mobs that hit very hard. The rest is pretty easy until Anub'rak. Those venom spitters are real bad news. The rest I haven't done yet on Heroic.

Basic strat for the guantlet in UP is take it slow and manageable. I'll usually charge about half way up the hall and take the adds. Then when it's calmed down take the mobs. Same for next groups. Avoid the frozen ground and assign one person to collect spears and your set.

As for Anub I'm not sure. A shammy with poison cleanse totem would be great. Another idea I read is CC with ice trap,repentance and/or shackle on the venom spitters. Otherwise when they spawn on the second phase they must be killed asap.

Edited by Antipas at December 21st, 2008 - 2:59 pm

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Nemontana

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Re: Heroics in Order of Difficulty | Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 7:17 PM

Thanks much for the comments! I've updated the post at the top; we'll revise it as we go. Please post what you see as you run heroics!

Drfill

Hyjal

Re: Re: Heroics in Order of Difficulty | Monday, December 22, 2008 - 10:55 AM

The Oculus is somewhere in the middle,still haven't been able to get the last boss which actually should be the easiest because it isn't gear dependant. Utguard Pinn guantlet is a pain in my butt as I haven't made it through it yet! Came closest using the method posted by Anti... So it maybe harder depending on the tank type. I would say UK, Nex, VH should probably be the first 3 for sure.

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